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Re: [ccp4bb]: refmac fom
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Bernhard Rupp wrote:
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> Dear All :
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> Some rtfrm (r for refmac) yields
> FWT and PHWT are amplitude and phase for weighted "2Fo-Fc" map (2mFo-DFcalc)
>
> Sofar so good. Nice map. Not as nice as Shake&wARP, but it takes about
> a factor of 10**2 less time ;-).
>
I guess you mean by Shake&wARP the map you get after many cycles of
refinement and rebuilding? It should be better, but of course much more
calculation has gone into generating it..
> more rtfrm:
> FOM = <m> - The "figure of merit" for this reflection.
> How do/can I use this particular FOM in a map?
> FP*FOM PHIC is quite a biased map. Where did m's buddy D go?
> Rtfp (paper) ?
Well - I only use it if I want to use the PHIC for some other purpose
than rebuilding - for instance you hope now you can find your anomalous
scatterers as markers for the building..
You would do a map DANO, PHIC , FOM.
Or if you had a putative derivative : You could look at the difference
map;
Fph-Fp, PHIC, FOM.
Otherwise I dont think it is very useful.
Guy likes to look at Fo FOm PHIC maps - and sometimes at lower
resolutions they are better - estimating D at 3A from incomplete data
can be tricky!
>
> Also (Brent as well raised the question), qtfm (q for quoting):
>
> "Rebuilding into these 2mFo-DFcalc and mFo-DFcalc maps
> seems to be easier than using classic nFO-(n-1)FC and difference maps,
> consistent with the established technique for SigmaA style maps.
> One advantage here is that since the m and D values are based on the Free
> set
> of reflections they are less biased than the values obtained by the CCP4
> version of SIGMAA after refinement"
>
> Ok I can see that for the first (no previous rebuild) map - but then
> in further cycles, haven't you actually taken info from your
> crossvalidation set and (real space) refined against it?
The 2mFo-DFc coefficients do not include the Free R reflections; those
terms are set = D*Fc, so there should not be corruption of the
crossvalidation set..
That IS in the paper - maybe not in the fm..
But if you insist on using nFO-(n-1)FC maps, yes; the cross validation
set will be corrupted, although there is an option in FFT to exclude
them, not that I think many people use it!
Eleanor
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> Best, BR
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