RE: [o-info] Re: [ccp4bb]: [SUMMARY]: Problems with PDB entry 1muo

["Flip Hoedemaeker" <flip@keydp.com>]

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Wow, heated debate! I like that!

Unfortunately for the Academic community, an increasing number of structures
is being done in Industry, and probably the most interesting (read
commercially interesting) ones will never be published, as a matter of fact
I myself do structures that remain undisclosed. You can never force the
crystallographic community as a whole to deposit all their data. Having said
this, of course the published structures should also be available to the
scientific community, but crystallographic data in this respect is no
different than data on gene sequences, expression constructs etc. It is the
responsibility of every individual journal that data which is published is
also reproducible and verifiable. The PDB cannot force journal editors to
force authors to submit their data upon submitting a manuscript, although I
would applaud the editors that do request all info. We could, as peer
reviewers, refuse structure papers when we cannot verify claims due to lack
of data, this would probably be the best way to go about this.

Flip

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On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, N.Ramasubbu wrote:

> Here is a simple solution.

Here is another simple solution, although I suspect most will consider it
to be on the harsh side.  If an author writes something in an article
which is untrue, such as "these coordinates have been deposited in the
data bank" for the purpose of being able to publish their work, they
should be held accountable for it. Since their ability to publish affects
their ability to get funding, they have in effect lied for profit. They
could be prosecuted for fraud.

Cheers,

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