Re: [ccp4bb]: summary of sulphate binding at ATP binding sites

["Ingo P. Korndoerfer" <korndoerfer@wzw.tum.de>]

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..... hey. if you guys have nothing else to do, drop by.
i have loads of trays that need to be set up ...

:-)

ipk

On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, JJ Doel wrote:

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> Sticking with the thread...
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> In that case, what does thiosulphate become??
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> JJD
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> >From: "Demetres D. Leonidas" <ddl@eie.gr>
> >CC: CCP4 Bulletin Board <ccp4bb@dl.ac.uk>
> >Subject: Re: [ccp4bb]: summary of sulphate binding at ATP binding sites
> >Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 13:38:00 -0200
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> >And to just add to the flame,
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> >we greeks have our own word for sulphur which is thio (no fs or phs at
> >all...)
> >and thus sulfate or suphate is just thiika and we avoid any confusion.
> >
> >Demetres
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> >Manfred Buehner wrote:
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> > > On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, Ethan A Merritt wrote:
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> > > > On Thursday 20 February 2003 10:58 am, Mischa Machius wrote:
> > > > > > The spelling in 'Sulphate'  is correct, at least, for people who
> >speak
> > > > > > and write Brittish english.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just to be anal: sulfur is Latin which has never had a 'ph'. That's
> > > > > Greek,
> > >
> > > that's not true. The Greek had and have their own letter 'phi'.
> > > Our "ph" is just a transliteration. I don't know who invented it,
> > > it must have been somebody who tried to have Greek look more
> > > pompous than Latin. (Or a Roman who wanted to single out the
> > > unloved Greek.) The simple "f" would have done perfectly as e.g.
> > > the Swedes and the Italians demonstrate. But nw it's too late,
> > > "ph" is firmly established (at least for the time being).
> > >
> > > > > Greek, which will be verified by Tassos. The Romans didn't like the
> > > > > Greek and would be very upset. There was an article in Nature a long
> > > > > time ago advocating to get rid of the Brittttish spelling of sulphur
> > > > > (must have been by an Oxford linguist). So, it's not about British
> >or
> > > > > American spelling at all, solely about Latin vs. Greek spelling.
> > > >
> > > > So - you would also prefer 'Fosforus' for element 15?
> > >
> > > no, because "phos" is Greek and "phorein" is Greek, and
> > > so we just have to live with good old phosphorus. (Also,
> > > we can thus avoid changing the element symbol to FO and
> > > confusion with fluorine in shifted pdb file columns.)
> > >
> > > Manfred
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