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Re: [ccp4bb]: [SUMMARY]: Problems with PDB entry 1muo
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- Subject: Re: [ccp4bb]: [SUMMARY]: Problems with PDB entry 1muo
- From: Miguel Ortiz =?iso-8859-15?Q?Lombard=EDa?= <mol@ysbl.york.ac.uk>
- Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 16:31:10 +0100
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Chris Prodromou <Chris.Prodromou@icr.ac.uk>, 23/04/2003:
> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 15:54:21 +0100
> From: "Chris Prodromou" <Chris.Prodromou@icr.ac.uk>
> To: <ccp4bb@dl.ac.uk>, <o-info@origo.imsb.au.dk>, <pdb-l@sdsc.edu>,
> <mol@ysbl.york.ac.uk>
> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb]: [SUMMARY]: Problems with PDB entry 1muo
>
> Dear Colleague,
> While I agree with you that coordinates should be made available once structures are published pressure to do so will also cause its own problems. The situation is not as simple as you project in your email and here is some food for thought.
>
> Researchers who obtain structures may not wish to lose the advantage that their work has generated and may put off publishing for a year or so to keep the advantage. They could present there structures at meetings and publish later.
>
Hi Chris,
I think I'm not being naive, I actually tried to point out the "keeping
the advantage" problem in my message. As I said there, I think that the
reasons for this behaviour come from the ever more competitive nature of
the work we are doing, and from the interference of industrial
objectives (profit) with scientific aims. Of course, one should always
try and tackle the profound causes, not only the symptoms, but when this
is not easy, we cannot simply stay and accept all the effects.
> secondly, they may chose to publish in Journals which don't have strict polycies about deposition of coordinates.
Pressure on the journals should correct this. Competitivity means also
that you want to publish in the better possible journals, not just in
any journal...
>
> This means that structures may become less readily available in the long run.
>
I think this is a sophism: the absence of an accountable system of
public release of data makes structures less readily accessible, the
implementation of such system may certainly cause some troubles, but
won't make the things worse. After all, thanks to the PDB and to the
pressure that others have put on the system have made these data more
available, and "secrecy" a less respectable conduct.
Cheers,
Miguel
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Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
email: mol@ysbl.york.ac.uk
http://www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/~mol
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